Lancia Worldtime Incabloc Automatic

This is my first buy from eBay! Why this watch?

It is big and bold:
Width w/o crown: 43,7 mm
Width with crown: 46,5 mm
Length: 43,7 mm
Depth: 15,2 mm
Lugs: 19,3 mm

Lancia Worldtime Incabloc

Lancia Worldtime Incabloc

Lancia Worldtime Incabloc

It has the now classical "Mortima-style" watch case with hidden lugs - see previous post for more info.

Everything seems to be original except for the crystal which has been replaced, the seller informs. Both inner bezels work perfectly.

I like that it has an automatic movement with both day and date. That is an upgrade compared to most watches with this case.

Lancia Worldtime Incabloc

The movement is an France Ebauches FE 3612. According to Ranfft it has 17 jewels, 44h power reserve. According to the inscription on the dial it furthermore has an Incabloc shock protection system. 

Ranfft dates the movement to around 1975. The eBay ad also said 1975 although I don't know where this info comes from.

The seller tells me that he has bought the watch at a local market site in Holland. The day-markings are in Dutch as well.

The brand is Lancia from Swiss Ditisheim & Co. and this watch has probably been assembled in France as the movement is French and the case probably also. Read more about Lancia watches here. 

The watch case is brass plated and after all these years it is not supposed to be in perfect condition. This Lancia clearly has some small scuffs and edges were the plating has been worn off and that just adds to the personality. Scratches can be seen in closeup photos but are almost not visible when wearing the watch.

I found a blogpost from Horlogeforum.nl with this exact Lancia Worldtime. It seems the seller has serviced the watch and movement a few months before it was put up for sale at eBay. Nice to know. 

Lancia Worldtime Incabloc

The watch also met the last requirement for this blog and was affordable: 185 euro.

I have seen one watch almost similar. Source. This other watch has the same blue dial and day markings in the dutch - but the internal diver's bezel is red and the movement is an FE 4612 (which has day and date quickset compared to FE 3612).

Lancia Worldtime Incabloc

Lancia Worldtime Incabloc

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Same chunky cushion watch case "Mortima-style" - different brands

A very nice large cushion shaped watch case with hidden lugs - seems to have been used by a wide variety of brands in the 70s. Some indicates the width to be 43 mm whereas others says 44 mm. I measure it to have these exact measures:
Width w/o crown: 43,7 mm
Width with crown: 46,5 mm
Length: 43,7 mm
Depth: 15,2 mm (depending on type of crystal - often domed)
Lugs: 19,3 mm

A reasonable theory is that the majority of these cases originates from the same manufacturer. This manufacturer has produced the entire watch (white label) or has just sold the cases - which then has been fitted with movement, dial and hands locally.
Supported by this source the main manufacturer could be Mortima. However normally all products from Mortima has the diver engraved on the back and only some of the watches below has this Mortima signature. If you want to know more about Mortima there is a bunch of info in these posts: History of Cattin & Cie, history of Mortima and large Mortima watches.

Please find below a collection of all the models with this case that I have come across while surfing. The list is sorted alphabetically.

In the end of this article there is more info about the ancestors of this cushion-shaped watch case-type that dates long back. I 1968 Heuer introduced the Camaro which I believe was an important inspiration for the watch case discussed here. It was then combined with elements from the super compressors - especially the internal rotating bezel - and some colorful dials that matches the style of the 1970s. Remove the lugs, which was also a trend at the time, and the "Mortima-style" was born ;-)

The Heuer Camaro introduced in 1968 must have been an inspiration for the "cushion-shaped-hidden-lugs-compressor-style" watch case that was popular in the 1970s. See examples below.

THREE CROWNS AND TWO INTERNAL BEZELS

Aurore Luxe Antichoc 17 Jewels
Source: eBay

Difor Antichoc
Source: eBay

Fresard Ancre 17 rubis Incabloc
Source: eBay

Grand Prix 21 Jewels Super De Luxe Datomatic

Source: eBay

James 25 rubis Datomatic

Source

Jopel Antichoc
Source: eBay

JYB Antichoc

Source

Lancia Incabloc Automatic

This is my specimen of the "Super Camaro"-family.

Read more about the Lancia watch here and about the Lancia watch brand here.

Le Royal 17 Rubis Unbreakable mainspring
Same dial layout as the Yearling - see later
Source

Le Royal 17 Rubis
Source: eBay

Lincoln Antichoc Ancre 17 Rubis
Source: eBay

Mortima 21 Jewels Super Datomatic Waterproof 100%
Source. Same model here.

Mortima 17 Jewels Super Datomatic Etanche 100%

Source. Same model here.

Mortima 17 Jewels Waterproof 100% Super Datomatic Unbreakable Spring Shockproof Antimagnetic

Different dial than thw two Mortima's above. Looks a bit like the Pirofa - see later.

This dial and these hands are common on other Mortima watches but not normally seen on this model. This is probably a frankenwatch.

Source: eBay

Moto 17R Monneret
Source

Orgadis 17 Rubis Datomatic

Source

Orgadis Datomatic

Same as the Orgadis above but with blue chequered bezel.

Source

Orgadis 17 Rubis Antichoc

Another Orgadis both with a different dial layout.

Source

Pirofa Lorsa P 75A

Source

Pirofa SHOCKproof

Note the small seconds. Movement FE233.

Source: eBay

Sihem Super Datomatic 17 Rubis

Source

Splendy Super Datomatic Modele Reserve

Source: eBay

System Super Datomatic

Source

System Super Datomatic Antimagnetic

Different dial layout compared to the one above

Source: eBay

Taunus Antichoc 17 Rubis

Three crowns. Two internal bezels. 

Source

Veda Antichoc 17 Jewels

Source: eBay

Yearling 17 Rubis Antichoc Aqua 2000 Water-Resistant

Source

Yearling 17 Rubis Antichoc

Source 

Yearling Mach 2 17 Rubis Antichoc

Source: eBay

THREE CROWNS - TWO INTERNAL BEZELS

BEZELS WITH DATE, DAY AND MONTH

Aurore

Source: eBay 

Avystyle Datomatic

Source

Bessa Prestige Antichoc

Cover for outer bezel is missing here.

Source: eBay

Engo 19(?) Rubis Antichoc

Source: eBay

F.T. Leibundgut Besancon Super Datomatic Modele Reserve

Source: eBay

Horlostyle Antimagnetic Antichoc Unbreakable

Source

Mortima Super Datomatic

Source

Mortima 21 Jewels Super Datomatic Waterproof 100%

Movement: Cattin C66 (NBNB It's 17 jewels. The dials says 21 jewels. Somethings not right)

Probably same watch as above but with a different colour internal bezel

Source

Yema TYL

Source

Very interesting watch. Firstly - it is a french Yema - supposedely these watches branded TYL were made for export. Secondly - this watch seems to be missing the overlay over the bezel with the names of the months. See the watches above how it was supposed to be.

TWO CROWNS - ONE INTERNAL BEZEL - 

AND SOMETIMES WITH AN EXTRA EXTERNAL BEZEL

Note: On closer inspection the following watches with two crowns might actually have a slightly different watch case than the Super Camaro's above. 

Deauville 15 Rubis Water-Resistant Aqua 2000

Source: eBay

Esperanto Antimagnetic 17 Jewels Shockproof France 
Source: eBay

Mortima 17 Jewels SuperDatomatic Waterproof 100%

THE PREDECESSORS

One of the classic watch case styles known as a cushion:

This type of watch shape dates way back. This is a Rolex from from the 1930s. However the width was only 27 mm back then. Source.

The original Panerais had cushion watch cases.

And a Patek Philippe and a Longines from the 1930s.

And to round it off, a modern Panerai Radiomir PAM610 - very delicious:

http://www.hablemosderelojes.com/forum/showthread.php?67872-Los-gigantes-coloridos-de-los-a%F1os-70